Reel lube, what brand and why?

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Re: Reel lube, what brand and why?

Postby thelatrobe33 » Mon Nov 24, 2014 6:39 am

Gears/Frame/Frame Bearings: SuperLube
Spool Bearings: Oust Met-Oil
Drags: Cal's Drag Grease
Worm Gear: Abu Garcia Reel Oil

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Re: Reel lube, what brand and why?

Postby H8R » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:11 am

TSI321 nothing else needed : )

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Re: Reel lube, what brand and why?

Postby zodiak311 » Mon Nov 24, 2014 10:49 am

Tsi 301 for ss bearings, hot sauce for ceramics, or red daiwa oil.
I use Daiwa blue grease, and for drags Cals.

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Re: Reel lube, what brand and why?

Postby DougL58 » Mon Nov 24, 2014 1:18 pm

I run bearings dry after applying Tungsten Disulfide, Longest casting and longest lasting lubricant I have used.

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Re: Reel lube, what brand and why?

Postby Tavery5 » Mon Nov 24, 2014 3:15 pm

This list has been around for a while, it could use some updating but there is still some good information contained in it. It may help to make a decision based on viscosity and the temperature of your local area.


Common reel oil viscosity

Lube.............................Viscosity@78F (cP)

Mobil-1 0W-30 (syn)..................400
Superlube w/PTFE..................... 245
Zebco Needle Oiler.................... 206
Quicksilver Storage Seal............ 203
Abu Silicoat Reel Oil..................176


Browning Midas Gun Oil (syn)... 140
Quicksilver PS and Trim Oil........136
BSB Speed Bearing...................114


Red RF (hc)...............................93
PMI Paintball Gun Lube...............90
Power Steering Fluid................. .90
Diawa Std Needle Oiler............ ...84
Reel-X.......................................74

ATF Dextron III...........................62
Shimano Std. (hc).......................60
Yellow RF (hc)............................59
3-In-1 Oil...................................40

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Reel Butter..................................28
Quantum Hot Sauce......................25
X+1R..........................................21
Diawa TDZ lube (syn)...................18
Diawa/Liberto Pixy Lube (syn)........18
Whale Spit (hc)............................14
Abu Black Max .............................14

WD 40........................................6
Tournament RF (hc)......................4
Friction Zero Lub (hc/syn )............4
Rem Oil (hc)................................3

Reference: DI water.....................1
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Lube....Viscosity (cP) @ .....38F...........@78F.........@ 98F (cP)

Yellow RF ........................285..............59....... .......35
3-In-1 Oil.........................161....... ......40...............20
Quantum Hot Sauce...........100..............25............... 16

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Re: Reel lube, what brand and why?

Postby Tavery5 » Mon Nov 24, 2014 3:16 pm

DougL58 wrote:I run bearings dry after applying Tungsten Disulfide, Longest casting and longest lasting lubricant I have used.


How are you applying the lubricant, if you don't mind me asking?

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Re: Reel lube, what brand and why?

Postby MidTNKayakAngler » Tue Nov 25, 2014 2:32 pm

Magnalube w/PTFE for gears and frame
Cals drag grease for baitcasters
Shimano Drag grease for spinning reels
TSI 321 for SS bearings
Alchemy Oil for ceramic bearings

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Re: Reel lube, what brand and why?

Postby zodiak311 » Tue Nov 25, 2014 10:24 pm

Tavery5 wrote:
DougL58 wrote:I run bearings dry after applying Tungsten Disulfide, Longest casting and longest lasting lubricant I have used.


How are you applying the lubricant, if you don't mind me asking?

X2 Any dos and donts when dealing with this material? Looks promising!

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Re: Reel lube, what brand and why?

Postby OkobojiEagle » Tue Nov 25, 2014 10:33 pm

Tony, In reference to your viscosity chart above... have you found the viscosity rating of TSI 321 at fishing temps in any literature?


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Re: Reel lube, what brand and why?

Postby Tavery5 » Wed Nov 26, 2014 1:22 am

OkobojiEagle wrote:Tony, In reference to your viscosity chart above... have you found the viscosity rating of TSI 321 at fishing temps in any literature?


oe


I have not, I wish I could remember who it was that originally posted this list several years ago so that I could give him credit for his work. It seems like he was in that industry and had the ability to measure viscosity, the list could use some updating but I still often refer to it.

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Re: Reel lube, what brand and why?

Postby DougL58 » Wed Nov 26, 2014 11:25 am

zodiak311 wrote:
Tavery5 wrote:
DougL58 wrote:I run bearings dry after applying Tungsten Disulfide, Longest casting and longest lasting lubricant I have used.


How are you applying the lubricant, if you don't mind me asking?

X2 Any dos and donts when dealing with this material? Looks promising!


I put some info in this post on the application; viewtopic.php?f=30&t=32945&p=420727&hilit=disulfide#p420727

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Re: Reel lube, what brand and why?

Postby Strewth » Wed Nov 26, 2014 1:00 pm

Tavery5 wrote:
OkobojiEagle wrote:Tony, In reference to your viscosity chart above... have you found the viscosity rating of TSI 321 at fishing temps in any literature?


oe


I have not, I wish I could remember who it was that originally posted this list several years ago so that I could give him credit for his work. It seems like he was in that industry and had the ability to measure viscosity, the list could use some updating but I still often refer to it.


From memory he was a physicist, whose first name was Mark

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Re: Reel lube, what brand and why?

Postby Strewth » Wed Nov 26, 2014 1:25 pm

Cals or Shimano drag grease for drag washers

Reel-X soft grease for covering gears and other internal parts (including gear teeth). Have also used Shimano TBM-0 grease for baitcaster gears with good results - recommended to me some years ago by a Shimano reel tech.

Corrosion X oil on the worm gear - will try TSI 321 soon as a test.

Smith IOS-01 for ceramic spool bearings, low viscosity non-Newtonian oil that lasts a long time
TSI 321 for stainless steel spool bearings, but IOS-01 is also very good

Personally, I can't stand loud bearings so dry lubes are out for me. I also fish in the salt a lot, so corrosion is always an issue....

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Re: Reel lube, what brand and why?

Postby njbasscat » Thu Nov 27, 2014 10:42 pm

Cals for drag washers
Daiwa space age grease for gears and frame bearings
Daiwa red or blue oil for spool and side plate bearing
Abu silicote for worm gear and handle bearings

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Re: Reel lube, what brand and why?

Postby Bronzeye » Thu Nov 27, 2014 11:51 pm

Strewth wrote:
Tavery5 wrote:
OkobojiEagle wrote:Tony, In reference to your viscosity chart above... have you found the viscosity rating of TSI 321 at fishing temps in any literature?


oe


I have not, I wish I could remember who it was that originally posted this list several years ago so that I could give him credit for his work. It seems like he was in that industry and had the ability to measure viscosity, the list could use some updating but I still often refer to it.


From memory he was a physicist, whose first name was Mark


He posted at another site under the name Mark G. I think he is/was a materials engineer for a major company in the Midwest. Haven't seen anything posted by him in five years or more. He contributed some very original and useful information to fishing discussions.


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