NANOFIL HATERS

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NANOFIL HATERS

Postby brian1967 » Tue May 19, 2015 10:56 am

How about this on 8 lb Nanofil? Trial and error is what it takes. Not bad huh? :big grin:
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All I can say is LEADER, LEADER, LEADER! ! ! Nuff said!

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Re: NANOFIL HATERS

Postby QUAKEnSHAKE » Tue May 19, 2015 11:58 am

brian1967 wrote:How about this on 8 lb Nanofil? Trial and error is what it takes. Not bad huh? :big grin:


All I can say is LEADER, LEADER, LEADER! ! ! Nuff said!


=D> =D> GREAT catch Brian

here some of my catches with #6&#8 nanofil, I dont use a leader though
This one caught today #3.52, #8 nanofil
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#4-5oz, #6 nanofil
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#3.7, #6 nanofil
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Re: NANOFIL HATERS

Postby jakob1010 » Wed May 20, 2015 2:37 am

Would you say that NanoFil and FireLine have the same visibility as nylon monofilament? Are you using a leader for abrasion resistance or for invisibility or for other reasons when using NanoFil or FireLine?

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Re: NANOFIL HATERS

Postby slipperybob » Thu May 21, 2015 12:43 pm

jakob1010 wrote:Would you say that NanoFil and FireLine have the same visibility as nylon monofilament? Are you using a leader for abrasion resistance or for invisibility or for other reasons when using NanoFil or FireLine?

Nanofil and Fireline are quite visible.

Yes exactly what that leader is used for.

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Re: NANOFIL HATERS

Postby bradbellflower » Thu May 21, 2015 11:56 pm

Very nice fish, the stuff still sucks.

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Re: NANOFIL HATERS

Postby ScoobyDoo » Sun May 31, 2015 11:18 pm

Quality fish!!
You can have all the nanofil you like.

I gave it two solid attempts. I know every knot in the book...Tried tons of variations of said knots...I love original fireline. 40lb fireline tracer has been one of my goto braids for the surf simply because it's proved to be so reliable and durable (so I'm not a berkley hater :) ) I have 40 reels spooled with braid and haven't used mono as a mainline this century. Nanofil is fragile, and inconsistent. Many who thought i was wrong in my findings (started a long lasting thread on another site tracking our findings with this line)....throughout the evolution of the thread found many of the same things wrong as i did. And went with a different line.

6lb suffix 832 is stronger although thicker diameter. While it doesn't cast as far or come of the spool nearly as fast. I can use the same alberto connect to 6 and 8 lb Seguar tatsu and Pline halo for multiple trips without retying.
With nanofil...i had to retie multiple times per trip.

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Re: NANOFIL HATERS

Postby Tim Kelly » Mon Jun 01, 2015 7:20 am

Learn the FG knot and the alberto will be consigned to history. Amazingly strong knot and surprisingly reliable with nanofil to leader connections.

I have a love hate with nanofil. It is undoubtedly great line for light spinning reels, but it seems more fragile than similar diameter braids. I was using 4lb the other day, FG knot to 3lb fluoro and it was so easy to cast tiny baits.

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Re: NANOFIL HATERS

Postby brian1967 » Mon Jun 01, 2015 8:36 am

Tim Kelly wrote:Learn the FG knot and the alberto will be consigned to history. Amazingly strong knot and surprisingly reliable with nanofil to leader connections.

I have a love hate with nanofil. It is undoubtedly great line for light spinning reels, but it seems more fragile than similar diameter braids. I was using 4lb the other day, FG knot to 3lb fluoro and it was so easy to cast tiny baits.


Modified Albright is what works best for me. It is a great line but requires a lot of attention. If you're willing to dedicate the time to the line it is a great line for spinning gear.

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Re: NANOFIL HATERS

Postby Brad in Texas » Tue Jun 02, 2015 1:40 am

I use Nanofil 12 lbs. test on a Shimano Stradic 2500 Ci4+ and a 7' medium St. Croix rod. I likely would have bought 8 or 10 test if it were available at the time I was at the store.

I kept the previous line, Sufix Elite mono on as a backer, tied a uni-to-uni knot to more Nanofil than I can cast, and then some more wraps so the knot never passes off of the reel arbor, and fish it that way.

I am not sure what fish can see but I know that since the Nanofil is incredibly fine, .008 inches for the 12, that visibility is mitigated to some degree compared to, say, fluorocarbons of the same test strength which will have large diameters. I may try a leader at some point but it would be more for abrasion issue than line visibility.

Knots? One contributor on YouTube said he has tried them all, that many Nanofil knots show breakage at around 60%, but he gets 100% using a three wraps through the eye of the hook first, then a 5 wrap Improved San Diego Jam knot. He demonstrates twice on the video that the line snaps before the knot does. In a previous test before he published the video, he did it 20 times with 19 breaks in the line, only 1 in the knot. Is there any knot easier to tie than a San Diego Jam? Not many.

For spinning reels and many finesse techniques, I can't imagine a better line. It has low visibility just owing to its thin profile, it has almost no stretch, it is sensitive, and it casts almost as if the lure being flung is completely untethered to anything.

No, I likely wouldn't use it for dropping heavy jigs through matted vegetation but the line you'd use for that wouldn't be acceptable for long range crankbait casting either.

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Re: NANOFIL HATERS

Postby brian1967 » Tue Jun 02, 2015 9:21 am

Brad in Texas wrote:I use Nanofil 12 lbs. test on a Shimano Stradic 2500 Ci4+ and a 7' medium St. Croix rod. I likely would have bought 8 or 10 test if it were available at the time I was at the store.

I kept the previous line, Sufix Elite mono on as a backer, tied a uni-to-uni knot to more Nanofil than I can cast, and then some more wraps so the knot never passes off of the reel arbor, and fish it that way.

I am not sure what fish can see but I know that since the Nanofil is incredibly fine, .008 inches for the 12, that visibility is mitigated to some degree compared to, say, fluorocarbons of the same test strength which will have large diameters. I may try a leader at some point but it would be more for abrasion issue than line visibility.

Knots? One contributor on YouTube said he has tried them all, that many Nanofil knots show breakage at around 60%, but he gets 100% using a three wraps through the eye of the hook first, then a 5 wrap Improved San Diego Jam knot. He demonstrates twice on the video that the line snaps before the knot does. In a previous test before he published the video, he did it 20 times with 19 breaks in the line, only 1 in the knot. Is there any knot easier to tie than a San Diego Jam? Not many.

For spinning reels and many finesse techniques, I can't imagine a better line. It has low visibility just owing to its thin profile, it has almost no stretch, it is sensitive, and it casts almost as if the lure being flung is completely untethered to anything.

No, I likely wouldn't use it for dropping heavy jigs through matted vegetation but the line you'd use for that wouldn't be acceptable for long range crankbait casting either.

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Re: NANOFIL HATERS

Postby brian1967 » Tue Jun 02, 2015 9:24 am

From my experiences, I would still use a leader. Tying direct will cause problems. Lost too many baits.

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Re: NANOFIL HATERS

Postby Brad in Texas » Tue Jun 02, 2015 11:54 am

Brian, thanks!

I just got back from a local lake, not known for great bass fishing, but I caught a couple on the Nanofil.

What I think I will do is continue "leadereless" for a time if for no other reason than to give the knot I am using a thorough test.

If it develops issues, I'll have no issue tying on a fluorocarbon leader. Oddly, TackleTour's own tests of fluorocarbon showed quite a lot of dysfunctional knots, that and more stretch than had been advertised by the makers of it.

I should also mention that for a great mono, if that is what someone wants to fish with, I have had really great luck with Sufix Elite and I typically use 8 lbs. test though I might drop to 6 if I spool it up again.

Finally, my guess is we'll see more entries into the Nanofil-like unwound Dyneema line arena. And, if copolymers advance much more in quality, they might make us throw all the other stuff out.

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Re: NANOFIL HATERS

Postby Seph » Sun Jun 07, 2015 6:46 am

Tim Kelly wrote:Learn the FG knot and the alberto will be consigned to history. Amazingly strong knot and surprisingly reliable with nanofil to leader connections.



I use an FG knot with my Nanofil as well.
With this knot I can put a 15' leader onto the line so that splice knot is on the spool when I make a cast. I have had this knot last more than a year without retying.

Yes the line has a few durability issues after awhile, but show me another line that casts this far at the same diameter. DISTANCE DISTANCE DISTANCE is why I love this line.

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Re: NANOFIL HATERS

Postby Brad in Texas » Mon Jun 08, 2015 12:51 am

I'll take a look at the FG knot.

But, just running straight up using the 3 loops through the hook eye then an Improved San Diego knot, I have had no break off issues though fishing has been slow with all of the new water on the lakes I fish. But, two more trips, one each day over the weekend and I see absolutely none of the fraying some have seen on my green Nanofil 12 lbs. test.

I understand the 10 ft leader I guess but wouldn't something just shy of the spool, say 5 feet do the trick if the issue is visibility? Of course, if you have confidence in your line-to-line knot and it is low profile, I guess it makes no matter.

Elite bass fisherman, Aaron Martens, uses braid backer on his spinning reels, claims it adds casting distance, then ties on Fluorcarbon with, get this, an overhand knot. But, he is way up on the arbor where the line will never play out even close to his knot. He says he uses that simple knot because he changes his leader often and it just saves time. When your line-to-line is spooled way up beyond the casting distance, knot strength becomes moot.

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Re: NANOFIL HATERS

Postby OkobojiEagle » Mon Jun 08, 2015 11:30 am

Brad in Texas wrote:When your line-to-line is spooled way up beyond the casting distance, knot strength becomes moot. Brad


I pray you don't hook into a 25lb flathead catfish...


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